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. >> the ntsb has made the request after batteries fire and the 787 that was on the tarmac of boston logan international airport. all nippon airlines said it had replaced the batteries on its 787 aircraft and 10 times because they failed to charge properly and show the other problems. they informed boeing about the swaps. all 50 of the boeing 787 use around the world have been grounded. lindsey lohan phases three misdemeanor charges from a crash. she is charged with obstructing or delaying an officer, providing false information to an officer and reckless driving. she is in order to attend today's pre-trial hearing and she could face 245 days for this for jail if it turns out she violated her probation. >> all in all it's not bad weather wise but we would get a full report on that and check back with hot spots with george in just a minute. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flig
. >> the ntsb has made the request after batteries fire and the 787 that was on the tarmac of boston logan international airport. all nippon airlines said it had replaced the batteries on its 787 aircraft and 10 times because they failed to charge properly and show the other problems. they informed boeing about the swaps. all 50 of the boeing 787 use around the world have been grounded. lindsey lohan phases three misdemeanor charges from a crash. she is charged with obstructing or...
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the ntsb says it is now conducting an investigation of the battery. boeing says it is cooperating and wants nothing more than to get this problem resolved as soon as possible. >> all right. are you an iphone gal or blackberry gal? >> frank, i'm a blackberry kind of gal. >> that is so yesterday. although they are making -- >> reporter: it's a classic. [ laughter ] >> it may be coming back, i guess, right? >> reporter: that's right. they are throwing to make a comeback. research in motion will unveil the blackberry 10 today. it's the first new smartphone in a year and a half from rem. they have a new apps, faster browser, new touchscreen although another version will have the keyboard. analysts say if the new blackberry well, it could be the end for the company. so that might be the last blackberry that i get but yeah, i can't -- i don't like change, frank, i'm kind of old school. >> if you tried an iphone you would never go back. all right, ashley. ashley morrison of cbsmoneywatch.com, thank you. >>> new this morning, toyota is recalling a million cars
the ntsb says it is now conducting an investigation of the battery. boeing says it is cooperating and wants nothing more than to get this problem resolved as soon as possible. >> all right. are you an iphone gal or blackberry gal? >> frank, i'm a blackberry kind of gal. >> that is so yesterday. although they are making -- >> reporter: it's a classic. [ laughter ] >> it may be coming back, i guess, right? >> reporter: that's right. they are throwing to make a...
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is that what caused the failures and all of this is what ntsb is looking in. >> stan greenhaus. is there a possibility there's something beyond the electronics? >> absolutely. they have not ruled out anything. you're looking at the worst situation for boeing they don't know exactly what the problem is and as long as they don't know exactly what the problem is, it's hard to forecast a solution, path for getting out of this. that is really the worst possible situation for boeing. people would say it would be worse if it had catastrophic failures. i understand what you're saying. if you're a manufacturer, you want center artainty and you're getting certainty with understanding exactly what went wrong. >> wilike a car, it has a fire, you stop and jump out of a car. i feel better with a car with a lithion battery than 40,000 place. you don't want it either place. >> what does he use? >> he uses lithion. >> he says it's a different structure how they set it up. >> they say the 747 had huge growing pains. i wish we could look in the future and look back on this. >> don't forget, jim wi
is that what caused the failures and all of this is what ntsb is looking in. >> stan greenhaus. is there a possibility there's something beyond the electronics? >> absolutely. they have not ruled out anything. you're looking at the worst situation for boeing they don't know exactly what the problem is and as long as they don't know exactly what the problem is, it's hard to forecast a solution, path for getting out of this. that is really the worst possible situation for boeing....
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mayor, ntsb chairman debby hirzman on the list but again, like you said whoever they pick, you really hope they get somebody that can sort of carry the torch. >> ray was a republican, offered high-speed rail money like let's start with rick scott of florida, a state that's designed for high-speed rail. created geographically and they turned down the money. so did idiot john kasic in ohio. they raised that money and gave it to other governors who are willing and see, have the vision to see this is the future. it's sad that the people of those states because of their, you know, dirt-brain governors are not going to get that. >> we used to have that clip. i think you asked him a question. he ripped into republicans and said, you know, when i was in the congress we did things differently. >> meredith, this is unfair, i know, but about a minute left to go. we are talking gun violence. we are talking climate control room. nobody is talking right now about the fiscal cliff or the fiscal crisis but welcome to another -- >> a lovely respite. >> it is. but we are going to come back to another f
mayor, ntsb chairman debby hirzman on the list but again, like you said whoever they pick, you really hope they get somebody that can sort of carry the torch. >> ray was a republican, offered high-speed rail money like let's start with rick scott of florida, a state that's designed for high-speed rail. created geographically and they turned down the money. so did idiot john kasic in ohio. they raised that money and gave it to other governors who are willing and see, have the vision to see...
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the ntsb is investigating what happened. he says really it was a matter of minutes before that rescue could have turned into a recovery. wolf? >> they are both very, very lucky indeed. mary, thanks for that report. appreciate it very much. they are. >> so lucky. that instructor, what a hero in trying to get out of that plane. >> amazing. >> oh, my god. i have goosebumps thinking about how cold that water is. oh, my goodness. very, very lucky. >>> still ahead, here's a question for you. what do doughnuts and marriage proposals have in common? ponder that one. jeanne moos will have that next. ♪ good morning, turtle. ♪ my friends are all around me ♪ my friends, they do surround me ♪ ♪ i hope this never ends ♪ and we'll be the best of friends ♪ ♪ all set? all set. [ male announcer ] introducing the reimagined 2013 chevrolet traverse, with spacious seating for up to eight. imagine that. >>> fair warning, friends. look away now if you are afraid of heights. that is nick wallenda keeping up his family tradition of d
the ntsb is investigating what happened. he says really it was a matter of minutes before that rescue could have turned into a recovery. wolf? >> they are both very, very lucky indeed. mary, thanks for that report. appreciate it very much. they are. >> so lucky. that instructor, what a hero in trying to get out of that plane. >> amazing. >> oh, my god. i have goosebumps thinking about how cold that water is. oh, my goodness. very, very lucky. >>> still ahead,...
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the ntsb is investigating what went wrong. the pilot did contact air traffic controllers and did make a may day distress call before that plane crashed. amazing stuff. >> listening to those tapes. my goodness. they survived half an hour in that water. >> almost half hour, yes. >> john, thanks so much. >>> we go to the west coast for a different kind of water threat. they're called sneaker waves. they strike suddenly. and they can sweep away the strongest swimmer. as neal karlinsky reports, a california woman is the latest victim. >> reporter: it's no surprise they're called sneaker waves. one look at the ones that have been captured on camera and you can see how suddenly they sweep in, knocking people hanging around otherwise peaceful shorelines off their feet. it's exactly what happened to 32-year-old susan archer, swept away sunday while working with her boyfriend, and their dog, trigger, along this northern california beach. >> you have to be careful of big waves. and we knew it. it just happened. >> reporter: tallerico sai
the ntsb is investigating what went wrong. the pilot did contact air traffic controllers and did make a may day distress call before that plane crashed. amazing stuff. >> listening to those tapes. my goodness. they survived half an hour in that water. >> almost half hour, yes. >> john, thanks so much. >>> we go to the west coast for a different kind of water threat. they're called sneaker waves. they strike suddenly. and they can sweep away the strongest swimmer. as...
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. >> a big takeaway from in the ntsb's latest update on the 787 investigation is it looks like the planes will not fly anytime soon. they don't know what caused two batteries to overheat, leading to a fire and emergency landing and the grounding of the fleet of 50 dreamliners in service. they're looking at the battery charger and the electrical system, and so far there's been no smoking gun. >> this is not something we're expecting will be solved overnight. there's a lot of technical work and a lot of complex work to understand. >> i also got word from a source inside boeing that the ntsb is looking at another fire in tucson in 2006 that happened on a plane -- it was during a test when the lithium ion battery exploded and burst into play. boeing says the test was done wrong. the worker who set it up says it was correct, and the batteries were dangerous. he was fired and sued and lost his case. now the feds are reexamining the whole incident. meantime, boeing continues to assemble dreamliners in seattle and south carolina. the problem is what to do with the planes when they're finished. th
. >> a big takeaway from in the ntsb's latest update on the 787 investigation is it looks like the planes will not fly anytime soon. they don't know what caused two batteries to overheat, leading to a fire and emergency landing and the grounding of the fleet of 50 dreamliners in service. they're looking at the battery charger and the electrical system, and so far there's been no smoking gun. >> this is not something we're expecting will be solved overnight. there's a lot of...
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the head of the ntsb is now speaking out about the batteries and saying the investigation is far from over. dan springer live in seattle with the latest now. this battery, dan, it may have been dangerous even before the plane was certified to fly? >> reporter: yeah, jon. this issue's been out there a long time. now, boeing uses these 60-pound lithium ion batteries because they put a lot more power out than the standard batteries used on planes. but there were serious red flags dating back to 2006. this video has surfaced of a fire at a boeing contractor's lab near tucson, arizona. it was sparked when a lithium ion battery -- the same kind used in the dreamliner -- exploded during the test. a company makes the battery charger for the dreamliner, and we know ntsb investigators were back at this location this week testing the charger. the battery concerns prompted the faa to issue special rules for the installation of the batteries in the 787 of. investigators said yesterday the safety systems put in place by boeing definitely did not work. jon? jon: so the experts are pessimistic about
the head of the ntsb is now speaking out about the batteries and saying the investigation is far from over. dan springer live in seattle with the latest now. this battery, dan, it may have been dangerous even before the plane was certified to fly? >> reporter: yeah, jon. this issue's been out there a long time. now, boeing uses these 60-pound lithium ion batteries because they put a lot more power out than the standard batteries used on planes. but there were serious red flags dating back...
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the chair of the ntsb said investigators have found what she called symptoms in the battery fire of a jet in boston but she adds they have not yet found the cause of the problem. she calls the problems an unprecedented event. its been grounded around the world since last week. >>> a new strain of nora virus is spreading in the united states. the cdc said that the virus strain has caused 140 outbreaks here. the strain has already hit japan and western europe. symptoms include vomiting and diarrhea. >>> huge flames a building fire in mass but it was the freezing conditions that proved more challenging for firefighters. spray from fire hoses formed ice and made for slippery conditions on the ground. ice formed on helmets and jackets while they knocked down the flames. the cause of the fire is still under investigation. >> the senate is set to vote monday on a 50 billion-dollar emergency relief bill to help victims of sandy. lawmakers new york, new jersey and connecticut say it's urgently needed. sandy hit the east coast last october killing 140 people and destroying homes and businesses.
the chair of the ntsb said investigators have found what she called symptoms in the battery fire of a jet in boston but she adds they have not yet found the cause of the problem. she calls the problems an unprecedented event. its been grounded around the world since last week. >>> a new strain of nora virus is spreading in the united states. the cdc said that the virus strain has caused 140 outbreaks here. the strain has already hit japan and western europe. symptoms include vomiting...
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that from the ntsb. airlines around the world grounded the 787s after a pair of battery fires. one forced a flight to make an emergency landing in japan. the other caused a battery fire onboard a dreamliner after it landed in boston. the head of the ntsb said they identified some of the battery problems but still do not know the cause. >> we know the lithium ion battery experienced a thermal runaway. we know that there were short circuits and we know that there was a fire. the work that we continue to do will tell us why these things happened. we have a number of next steps. we are early in our investigation. we have a lot of activities to you know take. we're going to be completing those lab exams that we talked about with that incident battery, and documenting all of those. bill: she also told "the seattle times" she would expect the grounding to last months and not weeks. that's the last thing the company wants to hear. safe flying. a lot on the line. martha? martha: some new reaction to what is called the most far-reaching gun proposals in u.s. history but does it address t
that from the ntsb. airlines around the world grounded the 787s after a pair of battery fires. one forced a flight to make an emergency landing in japan. the other caused a battery fire onboard a dreamliner after it landed in boston. the head of the ntsb said they identified some of the battery problems but still do not know the cause. >> we know the lithium ion battery experienced a thermal runaway. we know that there were short circuits and we know that there was a fire. the work that...
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that according to signs from the ntsb. investigators have found clues to what caused battery fires on the 787. but she says she is very concerned they still don't know the under lying cause. it can be fixed. the comments lead some industry experts to say the problem is bigger than previously thought which could lead to financial issues for boeing. boeing part of the dow jones also keeping an eye on starbucks. shares up 2% in premarket trading. overall revenue jumped 11%. >>> and urban wineries are pouring into san francisco. that is according to the san francisco business times. the paper says most people don't realize there are wineries on treasure island as well as in the south of market district. a new one opens this week with another expanding and several others doing a booming business. in addition to making wine, wineries are showcasing themselves as a place to hold nice events. >>> coming up new york city controversial soda ban is facing new opposition. >>> and flying cars. they are not just the vehicles of science
that according to signs from the ntsb. investigators have found clues to what caused battery fires on the 787. but she says she is very concerned they still don't know the under lying cause. it can be fixed. the comments lead some industry experts to say the problem is bigger than previously thought which could lead to financial issues for boeing. boeing part of the dow jones also keeping an eye on starbucks. shares up 2% in premarket trading. overall revenue jumped 11%. >>> and urban...
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the ntsb trying to get to the bottom of an engineering mystery. remember, the faa allowed boeing to use lithium ion batteries. the light fuel-efficient plane is supposed to save airlines a ton of money on long-haul flights. no dreamliners in the air right now. boeing says we're working this issue tirelessly in cooperation with customers and the appropriate regulatory and investigative authorities. it is still a mystery. the ntsb laying out this charred battery,ingi reporters what they are digging into. >> richard quest is in davos. beautiful behind you. tell us about the presser? pretty remarkable. battery charred, on the table. >> oh. the pictures are absolutely remarkable of what the battery looked like and not only that but also the damage that took place to the electronics bay at the same time when that fire broke out. but the serious part in all of this is what the ntsb chairman debra herdsman said. she basically made it clear there had been a fire, sign of a thermal runaway this is when the battery starts getting so hot it keeps getting hott
the ntsb trying to get to the bottom of an engineering mystery. remember, the faa allowed boeing to use lithium ion batteries. the light fuel-efficient plane is supposed to save airlines a ton of money on long-haul flights. no dreamliners in the air right now. boeing says we're working this issue tirelessly in cooperation with customers and the appropriate regulatory and investigative authorities. it is still a mystery. the ntsb laying out this charred battery,ingi reporters what they are...
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the ntsb says nothing like this is supposed to happen and it could have ended in disaster. all 787 dreamliners ground while investigators look at this problem. it is still a mystery about what's going wrong in the dreamliners. >>> check out this police chase in albuquerque. a man driving a stolen suv, he does a 360 degree. he is crisscrossing medians, going the wrong way. he nearly hit a school bus. also barely avoided some pedestrians. thankfully, no one was hurt. eventually pulled over and gave up. unbelievable. >> that was very smart. got out of the car and got down right away. >> there you go. >> thank you. appreciate that. it is 49 minutes past the hour. we're going to go overseas and take a look at the live pictures from cairo. protesters returned this morning. they are marking that two-year anniversary of their revolution there. the world was watching when thousands took to the square to protest what they called dire living conditions, corruption, and police brutality. it led to the overthrow of mu bar bar hosni mubarak. how much has changed there? we have a reporter
the ntsb says nothing like this is supposed to happen and it could have ended in disaster. all 787 dreamliners ground while investigators look at this problem. it is still a mystery about what's going wrong in the dreamliners. >>> check out this police chase in albuquerque. a man driving a stolen suv, he does a 360 degree. he is crisscrossing medians, going the wrong way. he nearly hit a school bus. also barely avoided some pedestrians. thankfully, no one was hurt. eventually pulled...
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inside a lab, ntsb analysts are dissecting that charred battery piece by piece. it caught fire earlier this month inside a boeing dream liner inside of logan airport. >> we do not expect to see fire events on board aircrafts. there are multiple systems to protect against a battery event like this. those systems did not work as intended. we need to understand why. >> all 50 boeing dream liners have been grounded worldwide while investigators look at the problem. >>> a 13-year-old girl told police a man tried to kidnap her. the teen was on her way to school early last friday morning on north 33rd and james street. it was dark but a neighbor's security camera captured a blurry imagine of a girl running. there is no clear imagine of the attacker. he is described as 25 to 35 years old, possibly latino with a mustache. one woman in the neighborhood told us, her and her father recognized the sketch. >> as soon as i saw the sketch i was like, i've seen him. it was in this area and i've always seen him on foot. >> she says that she does not know his name, but he appeared
inside a lab, ntsb analysts are dissecting that charred battery piece by piece. it caught fire earlier this month inside a boeing dream liner inside of logan airport. >> we do not expect to see fire events on board aircrafts. there are multiple systems to protect against a battery event like this. those systems did not work as intended. we need to understand why. >> all 50 boeing dream liners have been grounded worldwide while investigators look at the problem. >>> a...
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inside a lab, ntsb analysts are dissecting that charred battery piece by piece. it caught fire earlier this month inside a boeing dream liner inside of logan airport. >> we do not expect to see fire events on board aircrafts. there are multiple systems to protect against a battery event like this. those systems did not work as intended. we need to understand why. >> all 50 boeing dream liners have been grounded worldwide while investigators look at the problem. >>> a 13-year-old girl told police a man tried to kidnap her. the teen was on her way to school early last friday morning on north 33rd and james street. it was dark but a neighbor's security camera captured a blurry imagine of a girl running. there is no clear imagine of the attacker. he is described as 25 to 35 years old, possibly latino with a mustache. one woman in the neighborhood told us, her and her father recognized the sketch. >> as soon as i saw the sketch i was like, i've seen him. it was in this area and i've always seen him on foot. >> she says that she does not know his name, but he appeared
inside a lab, ntsb analysts are dissecting that charred battery piece by piece. it caught fire earlier this month inside a boeing dream liner inside of logan airport. >> we do not expect to see fire events on board aircrafts. there are multiple systems to protect against a battery event like this. those systems did not work as intended. we need to understand why. >> all 50 boeing dream liners have been grounded worldwide while investigators look at the problem. >>> a...
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tonight the ntsb says the back up protection in those battery failed. >> unprecedented event. we are very concerned. as i mention in the beginning, we do not expect to see fire events on board aircraft. >>reporter: she's speaking about 2 incidents that fire aboard sky pan airlines aircraft in boston at logan international airport as well as smoke incident aboard a plane flying over japan. after that the faa grounded all u.s. dream liners and other nations followed suit. >> no one was flying in salt lake city this afternoon. airport was closed for 3 hours because of freezing rain. one plane landing from denver slid on a patch of ice while on the runway. no one was injured. >> 2 united airline planes clipped wings at washington dulles international airport this afternoon. united flight arriving from brussels clipped the wings of united plane parked at near by gate. no one was hurt there either. >>> take a look at this. 19 second viral video grabbing the attention of federal aviation authorities. it show as breath taking stunt by aerobatic pilot coming within just feet of a perso
tonight the ntsb says the back up protection in those battery failed. >> unprecedented event. we are very concerned. as i mention in the beginning, we do not expect to see fire events on board aircraft. >>reporter: she's speaking about 2 incidents that fire aboard sky pan airlines aircraft in boston at logan international airport as well as smoke incident aboard a plane flying over japan. after that the faa grounded all u.s. dream liners and other nations followed suit. >> no...
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the ntsb said the battery had a short circuit and uncontrolled chemical reaction. what they don't know is why. >> what i can tell you is we have all hands on deck. we are working as hard as we can to identify what the failure is and what corrective actions need to be taken. >> the ntsb says it is coordinating its investigation with its japanese counter part. >> develops news, officials just spoke out about a shooting that injured two students. ktvu's jade hernandez is talking to them and will join us with the latest on what may have happened before the shots were fired. >> and a simple solution, the life saving role this market is playing in one bay area neighborhood.
the ntsb said the battery had a short circuit and uncontrolled chemical reaction. what they don't know is why. >> what i can tell you is we have all hands on deck. we are working as hard as we can to identify what the failure is and what corrective actions need to be taken. >> the ntsb says it is coordinating its investigation with its japanese counter part. >> develops news, officials just spoke out about a shooting that injured two students. ktvu's jade hernandez is talking...
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but the ntsb had no timetable as to how long this investigation will take. so, for now, all dreamliners will remain grounded, and that includes any test flights. wolf and kate? >> all right. sandra endo, thank you. i mean, these are huge airplanes. it affects a lot of passengers, as well. >> we'll stay on top of this story. that could be very, very important. >> yeah. >>> up next, jeanne moos has a new way to keep your pets, big pets, warm. and it will have you doing a double take. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in t
but the ntsb had no timetable as to how long this investigation will take. so, for now, all dreamliners will remain grounded, and that includes any test flights. wolf and kate? >> all right. sandra endo, thank you. i mean, these are huge airplanes. it affects a lot of passengers, as well. >> we'll stay on top of this story. that could be very, very important. >> yeah. >>> up next, jeanne moos has a new way to keep your pets, big pets, warm. and it will have you doing...
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. >>> well, at an update briefing within the past hour the ntsb said batteries aboard a 787 dreamliner created a short- circuit leading to the fire and now looking at manufacturing problems. that comes after they revealed yesterday that all eight cells of a 787's batteries showed thermal damage. the battery caught fire while the plan was empty and parked at the boston airport, all 50 dreamliners have been grounded worldwide while authorities in several countries investigate. >>> a a multi-million dollar security plan going in there. >> the harbaugh game find out who the parents said they will be cheering for on sunday. Ñmñz?cç?çÑkÑkÑe- >>> san jose police have found two main clues stemming from a home invasion this week. several armed men burst into their home on monday and investigators have recovered two cars stole in from en from the house. one car was found there and another found there. the robbers tied them up and made off with their valuables. >>> police released a sketch of this man they said robbed a couple there then. police say a man with a gun approached the couple a
. >>> well, at an update briefing within the past hour the ntsb said batteries aboard a 787 dreamliner created a short- circuit leading to the fire and now looking at manufacturing problems. that comes after they revealed yesterday that all eight cells of a 787's batteries showed thermal damage. the battery caught fire while the plan was empty and parked at the boston airport, all 50 dreamliners have been grounded worldwide while authorities in several countries investigate....
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we're still watching this briefing, trying to figure out if the ntsb can tell us anything more. as it stands now nothing on a timeline when the planes can start flying again or the precise reason why these batteries were catching on fire. back to you. ashley: rich, is there a separate investigation for each incident? we're just hearing about the one involving i guess this is the boston one, is that right? >> right, this is specifically the boston one. they said this particular incident the battery was so destroyed they're having a real tough time figuring out some of the precise tests. they're bringing it in work ing with their partners in japan. it is work taking time. tracy: jop january was getting different results. we still have difficult investigations going on. we're not getting closer. >> exactly. different countries working together. the company trying to coordinate with different countries. remember some of the issues boeing has is with supplier with the parts. not boeing manufacturing the entire plane. it is asassembling a large part of it. tracy: crazy stuff. rich eds
we're still watching this briefing, trying to figure out if the ntsb can tell us anything more. as it stands now nothing on a timeline when the planes can start flying again or the precise reason why these batteries were catching on fire. back to you. ashley: rich, is there a separate investigation for each incident? we're just hearing about the one involving i guess this is the boston one, is that right? >> right, this is specifically the boston one. they said this particular incident...
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the ntsb says the fire was caused by a battery that exploded. investigators have been examining the battery parts to see exactly why it exploded. now just last week after a series of problems with those planes, the faa grounding all dreamliner flights and that includes new nonstop service at san jose international airport. >>> education, job creation and budget concern just a few things governor jerry brown is expected to talk about this morning in his state of the state address. "today in the bay's" marla tellez joins us live in our newsroom with a preview. >> good morning. we're just about two hours away until governor brown takes the podium to deliver his third state of the state address. this is the first time he'll do so with california back in the black. this is thanks in part to prop 30 that was his big tax initiative that passed in november. the golden state is now enjoying more than $850 million surplus. it is expected governor brown will taut this success in this morning's state of the state but he'll also look to the future outlining
the ntsb says the fire was caused by a battery that exploded. investigators have been examining the battery parts to see exactly why it exploded. now just last week after a series of problems with those planes, the faa grounding all dreamliner flights and that includes new nonstop service at san jose international airport. >>> education, job creation and budget concern just a few things governor jerry brown is expected to talk about this morning in his state of the state address....
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the ntsb says six of eight cells of the battery have undergone stands and their examine why they caught fire. there's a sweet spot. u.s. sugar output is at record. that is creating the biggest glut in a decade. it could help reduce costs for chocolate makers such as hershey. we are eating the most sugar since the 1970's, but it is not enough to a source of increasing supply. you may have heard about the next story. subway has been accused of selling footlongs that were shorter than 12 inches. the company says the land can vary when a franchise does not make to the exact corporate standards. -- the length. two men are suing and are seeking class-action status. linda bell reporting for abc 7 news. back to you. >> thank you. very interesting. it's about 6:00 on this thursday morning, 19 degrees. we will be right back. b
the ntsb says six of eight cells of the battery have undergone stands and their examine why they caught fire. there's a sweet spot. u.s. sugar output is at record. that is creating the biggest glut in a decade. it could help reduce costs for chocolate makers such as hershey. we are eating the most sugar since the 1970's, but it is not enough to a source of increasing supply. you may have heard about the next story. subway has been accused of selling footlongs that were shorter than 12 inches....
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depending on the outcome of the ntsb and coast guard investigations. >>> the week takes a chilly turn. >> after rare winter warmth today, areas of 70s down in the south bay, los gatos at 73. santa cruz at 68. we have the system lining up offshore. we'll track the rain timeline and let you know when the showers will arrive coming up in a few minutes. >>> the clock is ticking for city college of san francisco. the school is taking teachers' wages without their permission to save the college. but will it work. the answer coming up in tonight's reality check. >>> what we can all learn from a man te'o's social media mess. an executive is weighing in with advice. >>> four years after a bizarre road rage episode left two elderly pedestrians dead, a san jose jury convicted a drunk driver of their murders. visitors to the park were horrified to see a white suv plow right into three seniors out on a morning stroll. two of them died. a man playing soccer nearby testified at trial that minutes before the accident, driver armando oh choa had shouted at him and tried to cut him off in traffic. his
depending on the outcome of the ntsb and coast guard investigations. >>> the week takes a chilly turn. >> after rare winter warmth today, areas of 70s down in the south bay, los gatos at 73. santa cruz at 68. we have the system lining up offshore. we'll track the rain timeline and let you know when the showers will arrive coming up in a few minutes. >>> the clock is ticking for city college of san francisco. the school is taking teachers' wages without their permission...
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the ntsb with boeing investigators out in everett, washington, where they make the dreamliner. they have hundreds of employees at boeing in everett working on the 878 problem, and they are in teams trying to do what you would want to do here, do a test. try to figure out if there's some common theme here. and finally in japan, japanese investigators, along with investigators from the ntsb, they are looking at the battery from the ana dreamliner, the ntsb said that battery was ore charged, different than what was said about boston taking a look at boeing since the incident on boston on january 7th. still more questions than dreamliners. >> you know the ceo of the company has to be saying what's next? >> so tough. >> the badly named dreamliner has been a nightmare for him and his company over the years. phil, stay with us now. let get more now on the boeing fallout. a maintaining of the outperform radar saying all of this will be a blip. >> the supply chain companies that they deal with, a bullish outlook. why are you still bullish when we don't know how long this plane is going
the ntsb with boeing investigators out in everett, washington, where they make the dreamliner. they have hundreds of employees at boeing in everett working on the 878 problem, and they are in teams trying to do what you would want to do here, do a test. try to figure out if there's some common theme here. and finally in japan, japanese investigators, along with investigators from the ntsb, they are looking at the battery from the ana dreamliner, the ntsb said that battery was ore charged,...
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the ntsb says the tests in washington showed a lithium battery that caught on fire on an empty dream weiner in boston earlier this month was not overcharged. suspicions about the battery and a possible fire risk led the u.s. and other countries to ground all 53 minor worldwide last week. >> the tsa says it is getting rid of the airport by his get is that produce a negative image of travelers. >> the x-ray scanners drew protests from privacy advocates, and so congress has mandated that they be changed to remove by june. the tdsa says it will keep another type of scanner that generates a generic image which only shows agents where to look for an object on the travelers body. >> still ahead is getting cold all from the country, we will take a look at how cold it is getting coming up. new nehoney nenchencof oofs sgreegryoguyo and aholehorainra herehe we goe i'i'm tasttag bog the togurog d thd honehoat tat sam stimeti new how ney buy hes he oat ogrer i'm like dkeginggith yog yt. i feelfe healtea.. vo: for cold and flu season, honey, don't use your sleeve. there's clorox bleach. >> welcome
the ntsb says the tests in washington showed a lithium battery that caught on fire on an empty dream weiner in boston earlier this month was not overcharged. suspicions about the battery and a possible fire risk led the u.s. and other countries to ground all 53 minor worldwide last week. >> the tsa says it is getting rid of the airport by his get is that produce a negative image of travelers. >> the x-ray scanners drew protests from privacy advocates, and so congress has mandated...
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the ntsb is investigating: agency says it could take 18 months before we know if man or machine was to blame for the accident. funds that are in preserve will be used to pay the $2 million or $3 million but they will seek reimbursement from the owner of the tanker. live in san francisco for abc7 news. >> thank you, katie. city leaders expect a big town out in oakland when the city considers bringing on a controversial police consultant, william bratton, former chief of los angeles and new york city will be consulted to reduce problems in oak. but tempers flared over possible available filing because he favored "stop and frisk" where police can stop anyone they think is suspicious. the oakland city council will take up the meeting tonight. >> in san francisco the use of tasers is the focus of a community meeting. right now the san francisco police department is the only agency in the bay area that does not use stun guns. the chief wants do launch a pilot program to he quinn -- to equip officers with tasers. >> the governor's proposed education will be discussed for education for $371 mi
the ntsb is investigating: agency says it could take 18 months before we know if man or machine was to blame for the accident. funds that are in preserve will be used to pay the $2 million or $3 million but they will seek reimbursement from the owner of the tanker. live in san francisco for abc7 news. >> thank you, katie. city leaders expect a big town out in oakland when the city considers bringing on a controversial police consultant, william bratton, former chief of los angeles and new...
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the ntsb says that test in washington showed a lithium " ion " a battery that caught fire on an empty dream liner in boston earlier this month was not overcharged. suspicions about the batteries and possible fire risk led the u.s. and other countries to ground all 50 streamliners worldwide last week. >> the t s eight says that it is getting rid of the airport body scanners that produce a next image of travelers. the x-ray scanners and drew protests from a privacy advocates, as though congress has mandated that they beat change or removed by june. the csa says that it will keep a another type of scanner that generates a generic damage which only shows ages where to look for an object on the travelers body. >> next on kron 4 morning news. george is tracking a hot spot. we will get an update on the back up on the bay bridge. >> after a big spike in rent prices in the bay area, it could be a good time to rent a get. we will explain coming up. coming up. new nehoney nenchencof oofs sgreegryoguyo and aholehorainra herehe we goe honehoy corncoflakesaknd ndunksunf grf k yok rt.rt i'i'm tastta
the ntsb says that test in washington showed a lithium " ion " a battery that caught fire on an empty dream liner in boston earlier this month was not overcharged. suspicions about the batteries and possible fire risk led the u.s. and other countries to ground all 50 streamliners worldwide last week. >> the t s eight says that it is getting rid of the airport body scanners that produce a next image of travelers. the x-ray scanners and drew protests from a privacy advocates, as...
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caltrans may be able to recoup some of that money and the repair money there pending outcome of the ntsb and coast guard investigation. >> good morning to you. we want to check the forecast with meteorologist christina loren. good morning. >> good morning to you, jon and marla. good morning to you at home. this is what is greeting you when you walk out your front door. a spectacular start to the day. we have a few high clouds but overall looking mostly clear to start. beautiful shot over the san francisco bay this morning. 42 degrees in the city right now. in san jose we're at 38 degrees. it's cold out there. grab your heavy coat. 30 in gilroy. as we head throughout the day today, you can peel it off by noon. moderate air quality so some improvement in that department. hour by hour detail works like this for today. your full forecast just a few moments away. first, want to look at your drive. good morning, mike. >> good morning. let's take you right out there for the live look in palo alto. we do have an issue. even though we show northbound with these headlights just fine coming past un
caltrans may be able to recoup some of that money and the repair money there pending outcome of the ntsb and coast guard investigation. >> good morning to you. we want to check the forecast with meteorologist christina loren. good morning. >> good morning to you, jon and marla. good morning to you at home. this is what is greeting you when you walk out your front door. a spectacular start to the day. we have a few high clouds but overall looking mostly clear to start. beautiful shot...
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the ntsb released a statement saying the battery was not overcharged. when you look at picture you can tell it overheated. secure plane is one that made the charger. they will download the nonvolatile memory from the apu controller. in boston it was the auxiliary power unit, in other words the backup battery that overheated and eventually caught fire. that sits in the back of the plane and provides power when the engines are off. this trigger ad comprehensive review of the 787 electrical system. when there was another battery that overheated on a japan airlines flight a few days later the whole dreamliner fleet was grounded. bill? bill: dan, it seems the japanese and american authorities have different investigations. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: they are different. they're going in sort of different tracks but they're also loosely coordinated. japanese transportation officials seem to be focusing their attention more on the battery manufacturer. they're made in japan by one of the country's oldest companies and biggest battery manufac
the ntsb released a statement saying the battery was not overcharged. when you look at picture you can tell it overheated. secure plane is one that made the charger. they will download the nonvolatile memory from the apu controller. in boston it was the auxiliary power unit, in other words the backup battery that overheated and eventually caught fire. that sits in the back of the plane and provides power when the engines are off. this trigger ad comprehensive review of the 787 electrical...
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the ntsb is looking at 18-month long investigation to determine if it was humor mechanical error. there was no damage to the bridge tower itself and the tanker did not leak oil in the bay. >> thank you. it is 4:34. the first family will attend a national prayer service at national cathedral a final day of inaugural-related events before the second term really starts with parties including lady gaga before politics as usual. >> the white house staffer have to have an inauguration but you right, the president will get back to business after so much pomp and circumstance. i wonder if he is sleeping in as there was a big night out last night. ♪ you can feel the power >> star-studded inaugural balls president obama and the first lady stole the spotlight. ♪ obama's on fire >> mrs. obama stunning in a ruby gown and the couple safer anywayed by jennifer hudson. ♪ i could go back >> the ball was a spectacular day of pomp with plenty of music. ♪ and the whole world >> a parade. a public swearing in at capitol. now it is back to work who signaled he will put a bold, progressive agend
the ntsb is looking at 18-month long investigation to determine if it was humor mechanical error. there was no damage to the bridge tower itself and the tanker did not leak oil in the bay. >> thank you. it is 4:34. the first family will attend a national prayer service at national cathedral a final day of inaugural-related events before the second term really starts with parties including lady gaga before politics as usual. >> the white house staffer have to have an inauguration but...
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now today the ntsb investigators will be in arizona visiting the secure plane facilities. that is the company that makes the charger for the battery, as they continue to figure out what happened in this case. in both cases if you take a look at shares of boeing which are likely to be under pressure today as it's clear that this investigation is extended, becky and joe, the bottom line is this, you're looking for commonality in the two failed batteries. in one case they say it was overcharged. in another case they're saying it wasn't. that's looking more and more like an indication that they don't know exactly what happened here, and as a result, figuring out a solution is going to take a little longer than originally anticipated. >> phil, we were talking earlier about how the stock has started to break down a little bit out of that trading range where it had been earlier. >> right. and the thing you want to watch, becky, the thing you want to watch is when boeing, if boeing says we have to slow down our production schedule. because that's the key. once that happens, if tha
now today the ntsb investigators will be in arizona visiting the secure plane facilities. that is the company that makes the charger for the battery, as they continue to figure out what happened in this case. in both cases if you take a look at shares of boeing which are likely to be under pressure today as it's clear that this investigation is extended, becky and joe, the bottom line is this, you're looking for commonality in the two failed batteries. in one case they say it was overcharged....
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the ntsb and the coast guard say it could take months to determine the actual cause of the crash. >> the union representing state engineers is questioning whether there's enough oversight on california's planned high-speed rail line. plans for the first 30-mile segment call for the contractors to design and build a project as well as hire inspectors to test it. state engineers to high speed rail meets independent inspectors on site to make sure everything is done correctly. the high-speed rail authority says there will be many levels of inspection they can consult cal trans. >> putting an end to partisan squabbling. the president uses this historic day to forge a path for the future. y >>> and i'm janelle wang. a hostage standoff that killed three americans. and preparing like any british soldier, so what happened on his tour of duty in afghanistan he just wrapped up? next in "world tonight." >>> and drinks on the house. the airline that took on and is now on the hook for millions of free drinks. >>> looking at a live picture of the president and mrs. obama at the official inaugural
the ntsb and the coast guard say it could take months to determine the actual cause of the crash. >> the union representing state engineers is questioning whether there's enough oversight on california's planned high-speed rail line. plans for the first 30-mile segment call for the contractors to design and build a project as well as hire inspectors to test it. state engineers to high speed rail meets independent inspectors on site to make sure everything is done correctly. the high-speed...
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the ntsb will carry out the tests in arizona. one battery caught fire that led to the grounding of the aircrafts world wide. >>> caltrans will repair the bay bridge bumpers. the funders worked and there was no damage to the bridge structure. the bumpers are made of steal and plastic. repairs are estimated to cost $2 million. the commission hopes to have the company that owns the ship to pay for repairs. >> we are going to take a quick break and we will be right back. >>> complete bay area news coverage continues right now, this is ktvu channel 2 news at 5:00 p.m. >> friends and co-workers paying tribute to two men who drowned while on vacation in hawaii this weekend. ktvu's allie rasmus is live in san francisco with more. >> reporter: we have seen large waves here this weekend but beachgoers 2400 miles away in hawaii faced similar conditions. it was a rogue wave that claimed the lives of the two bay area men, now friends are telling us more about them. >> reporter: this is the rocky remote beach adam griffiths and boulevard burge
the ntsb will carry out the tests in arizona. one battery caught fire that led to the grounding of the aircrafts world wide. >>> caltrans will repair the bay bridge bumpers. the funders worked and there was no damage to the bridge structure. the bumpers are made of steal and plastic. repairs are estimated to cost $2 million. the commission hopes to have the company that owns the ship to pay for repairs. >> we are going to take a quick break and we will be right back. >>>...
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the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months to determine the cause of the crash. >>> b.a.r.t. riders who travel across the bay last night should expect slight delays starting today. crews will begin the first phase of an earthquake safety project on that transbay tube. the retro fit is scheduled after 10:00 p.m. to minimize the number of b.a.r.t. riders affected. only one track from that transbay tube will be operating during the construction. brace yourselves for slowdowns for the trains. the work should be done by early february. >>> it is 6:52 now. less than two hours from right now president obama will take the oath of office at the u.s. capitol with an estimated 800,000 spectators looking on. let's give you a live look at washington d.c. some of the choir there. the beginning of president obama's second term will be marked with a day-long celebration but there are also significant challenges ahead. jim is a professor of political science at santa clara university. good morning for you. in terms of the president's short-term agenda, what's on that short-term agenda? >> one
the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months to determine the cause of the crash. >>> b.a.r.t. riders who travel across the bay last night should expect slight delays starting today. crews will begin the first phase of an earthquake safety project on that transbay tube. the retro fit is scheduled after 10:00 p.m. to minimize the number of b.a.r.t. riders affected. only one track from that transbay tube will be operating during the construction. brace yourselves for slowdowns for...
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the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months to determine the cause of the crash. >>> people all over the nation and across the bay area will celebrate martin luther king day by giving back to their communities. in san mateo county, a food drive for second harvest food bank and a celebration of the arts. in oakland, cleanup events will be held at martin luther king jr. shoreline and caltrans will host the freedom train ride. the train leaves at 9:30 this morning and ends with a march. >>> the 2013 mavericks surf competition is right now in the books. a local wave rider manages to come out on top. about two dozen of the world's top surfers out there getting the job done showing off the moves on the waves that reached up to 25 feet up there in half moon bay. beautiful day out there. thousands gathering to watch that competition unfold. they had to watch it on the jumbotr jumbotron. first time ever fans were prohibited from watching the action from mavericks beach after a rogue wave last time they had it injured several spectators. fans say they are disappointed but made the best of
the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months to determine the cause of the crash. >>> people all over the nation and across the bay area will celebrate martin luther king day by giving back to their communities. in san mateo county, a food drive for second harvest food bank and a celebration of the arts. in oakland, cleanup events will be held at martin luther king jr. shoreline and caltrans will host the freedom train ride. the train leaves at 9:30 this morning and ends with a...
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the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months simply to determine the exact cause of the crash. >>> people all over the nation and across the bay area will celebrate martin luther king day by giving back to their communities. in san mateo county, volunteers will hold a food drive for second harvest food bank along with a celebration of the arts. in oakland, cleanup events will be held at martin luther king, jr., shoreline and fruitvale district. and caltrain will host the freedom train ride from san jose to san francisco. the train leaves at 9:30 and ends with a march from san francisco's caltrain station. also today, john carlos will join a march in celebration in pittsburgh in honor of dr. king. carlos and his teammate tommy smith made history at the summer games in 1968 with their iconic black power demonstration atop the medal podium. carlos will give a speech at a rally at pittsburgh high school today at noon. >>> it is 4:42 right now. still ahead, getting assistance from an app. the high tech help that could be coming for thousands of bay area's low income residents. >>> so
the ntsb and coast guard say it could take months simply to determine the exact cause of the crash. >>> people all over the nation and across the bay area will celebrate martin luther king day by giving back to their communities. in san mateo county, volunteers will hold a food drive for second harvest food bank along with a celebration of the arts. in oakland, cleanup events will be held at martin luther king, jr., shoreline and fruitvale district. and caltrain will host the freedom...
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the ntsb is still working on that at their materials lab in d.c. where they disassembled the lithion ion battery that caused the fire in boston two weeks ago. so far we've only received three updates on their investigation and it sounds like they're using the process of elimination to find out what's wrong because the latest thing they've crossed off their list of possible problems is excess voltage. in a statement today, the ntsb says, and this is a quote, examination of the flight recorder data from the jalb 787 airplane indicates that the apu battery did not exceed its designed voltage of 32 volts and boeing said they are not going to speculate about what's wrong with their batteries until the faa finishes its investigation. jon, you see the batteries there. >> yeah. so how much longer will the airplanes stay grounded? >> reporter: there's no time table for that right now officially, but governments around the world told airlines using these enormous aircraft, these enormous 787s to keep them grounded to make sure these batteries don't cause any
the ntsb is still working on that at their materials lab in d.c. where they disassembled the lithion ion battery that caused the fire in boston two weeks ago. so far we've only received three updates on their investigation and it sounds like they're using the process of elimination to find out what's wrong because the latest thing they've crossed off their list of possible problems is excess voltage. in a statement today, the ntsb says, and this is a quote, examination of the flight recorder...
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and ntsb and boeing joined the japanese team looking at the battery which is the focus of a world-wide grounding of the fleet. general officials say the casing was so swollen it expanded 1" and was charred. the battery leaked so much it was 10 pounds lighter than normal. all dreamliners in service around the world will undergo detailed inspections. >> actor robert wagner is refusing to talk with los angeles investigators arrest re-opening the case into the death of natalie wood, his wife, who drowned off catalina island on a boating trip which was listed as an accident originally but not the cause of death has been changed to "undemocraticked." the "los angeles times" reports that the investigators have interviewed 100 witnesses since the investigation was re-opened. they drove to wagner's colorado home to interview him but he refused. >> plenty of excitement for president obama's second inauguration with the former music promotor who called the bay area home. he has attended 7 nominations dating back to nixon in 1972 and seen carter and reagan and president clinton sworn in and was re
and ntsb and boeing joined the japanese team looking at the battery which is the focus of a world-wide grounding of the fleet. general officials say the casing was so swollen it expanded 1" and was charred. the battery leaked so much it was 10 pounds lighter than normal. all dreamliners in service around the world will undergo detailed inspections. >> actor robert wagner is refusing to talk with los angeles investigators arrest re-opening the case into the death of natalie wood, his...
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. >>> new at 11:00, investigators from the ntsb and the faa are joining a japanese investigation on a grounded boeing dreamliner, it was forced to land earlier this week after the pilot thought he smelled smoke. it was the latest in a series of problems with the craft. all dreamliner flights have been cancelled. >>> well, is there a hot streak coming to an end, san jose's newest casino has struck out with the city's police chief. the owners of the casino matrix said that the police chief has rejected their application to add penitentiaryhouse gaming to the top floor. san jose's gaming commission recommended the denial and the police chief backed it up. matrix owners are trying to determine if they can appeal the decision. >>> surveillance video captures the fastest robbery attempt on record. in nine seconds, three masked men walk in to the jewellers in menlo park and walked out when they realized the store owner had a gun. the suspect started to break the glass cases and ended up fleeing without anything. the men escaped in a white car, which crashed about a mile away. you see it here
. >>> new at 11:00, investigators from the ntsb and the faa are joining a japanese investigation on a grounded boeing dreamliner, it was forced to land earlier this week after the pilot thought he smelled smoke. it was the latest in a series of problems with the craft. all dreamliner flights have been cancelled. >>> well, is there a hot streak coming to an end, san jose's newest casino has struck out with the city's police chief. the owners of the casino matrix said that the...
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plane's batteries in ten days have left the faa with no choice but to ground the dreamliner, while the ntsb analyzes the charred evidence from last week's 787 fire. lithium batteries are smaller and more powerful, but can overheat. >> when they're used normally, and the energy is released slowly, as it's supposed to, batteries have a very good safety record. but if that same energy is released very rapidly, the battery cells will vent, release their contents, and have the potential both for fire and explosion. >> reporter: boeing needed special faa approval to allow the dreamliner to use lithium batteries for key electrical systems. >> they have narrowed it down to the battery system on this aircraft. we've had two events, and so, therefore, they're going to now be able to look at it a little bit more in detail and figure out what's going on. >> boeing's european archrival, airbus, uses lithium batteries only for emergency lighting in their air-380. but airbus' plane of the future, the air-350, due out by the end of next year, relies on them more heavily. the company says there are no plans
plane's batteries in ten days have left the faa with no choice but to ground the dreamliner, while the ntsb analyzes the charred evidence from last week's 787 fire. lithium batteries are smaller and more powerful, but can overheat. >> when they're used normally, and the energy is released slowly, as it's supposed to, batteries have a very good safety record. but if that same energy is released very rapidly, the battery cells will vent, release their contents, and have the potential both...
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we're waiting to see the results of the ntsb investigation to make a decision about what it all means. so frankly, we're saying to investors is, look, we can't say with any conviction level that there's a certain entry point where we want to jump in here and buy. what we want is more data. if you own boeing shares here, i think you hang on. i think the long-term outcome of this is that they will sort through the problems. you can see airbus this morning expressing confidence that they think boeing, their competitor will sort through the problems. but right now, you know, you're dealing with emotion and you're dealing with news flow, which is very hard for investors to forecast. >> there but for the grace of god for airbus. they're not going to crash airbus. >> look the safety of all things for airplane manufacturers, the one thing they can all agree within, the one thing they share data on, the one thing they're all committed to is safety. >> if it leaks out of the battery and has a weird smell, it's not a fire. >> yeah, that's really the important thing about what happened yesterday.
we're waiting to see the results of the ntsb investigation to make a decision about what it all means. so frankly, we're saying to investors is, look, we can't say with any conviction level that there's a certain entry point where we want to jump in here and buy. what we want is more data. if you own boeing shares here, i think you hang on. i think the long-term outcome of this is that they will sort through the problems. you can see airbus this morning expressing confidence that they think...